Beware of Greek Bailouts

As the Greek Debt Crisis continues, President Obama needs to stand firm: American tax dollars should not be used to bail out Greece – or any country – that engages in reckless government spending and deficits.  And yet, a bailout paid for by U.S. taxpayers remains a real possibility.

This week, leaders of the European Union will be meeting to consider aid for Greece. But instead of using their own money to bail out Greece, it's more likely the EU will adopt Germany's proposal to use money from the International Monetary Fund. That way U.S. taxpayers "“ not just the European Union "“ will be on the hook for an international bailout.

U.S. tax dollars already pay for 17% of the IMF's liquidity. And any bailout by the IMF would have to be approved by the U.S. government. According to the IMF's rules, major decisions require an 85% supermajority. And the U.S. is the only country with the power to block a supermajority on its own.

Therefore, President Obama has the power to either approve or reject a bailout of Greece. So far, he has been quiet. But instead of waiting while storms gather, the President should be vocal that U.S. taxpayers will not bail out Greece. The European Union may be tempted to pass the buck to the U.S. by requesting IMF "help." If the Presidents tells them ahead of time that such "help" will not be forthcoming, he will make it more likely that the E.U. will meet its responsibilities.

One note however: While Greece has been fiscally irresponsible, America hasn't been much better. Greece's national debt equals 113% of its GDP. By comparison, America's national debt equals 64% of GDP, although it's expected to grow to almost 100% in the next 10 years. Do we want to become like Greece? And if we do, who will bail out America? Let's hope that's a question we never know the answer to.

In the meantime, let's be clear: If President Obama is considering bailing out Greece, American taxpayers need to send him a message. And our message is: "Just Say No."

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9529458 Commentshttp://biggovernment.com/crodgers/2010/03/24/beware-of-greeks-bearing-bailout-plans/Beware+of+Greeks+Bearing+Bailout+Plans2010-03-24+15%3A59%3A08Rep.+Cathy+McMorris+Rodgers+%28R-WA%29 BusProf - March 24th, 2010 at 4:06 pm

A mouse trap with a big hunk of fetta cheese on it….

BusProf - March 24th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

I remember when Mutually Assured Destruction was about Nuclear Weapons – now it is is about Money.

It is like we are all sitting in a swimming pool of gasoline and every country has a match.

LODDTOM - March 24th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Haha, expecting Barry/Nancy/Harry to exercise anything resembling fiscal responsibility, is like expecting the sun not to come up for the next week or so.

Paul - March 24th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Ahhh. Excuse me? "In the meantime, let’s be clear: If President Obama is considering bailing out Greece, American taxpayers need to send him a message. And our message is: “Just Say No.”

Obama listens to us? Pull my other leg.

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

forget Greece- it's California that is the REAL problem here…

Greece is closer to Illinois in per capita debt than CA. The Golden State is going to go belly up without a massive infusion of Obamascript. Which undoubtedly is coming. Too big too fail, y'know. The question remains: will any of these entities correct their own financial malfeasance after they are helprd out, or will the profligate spending continue?

What do YOU think?…

Liberty4Ever - March 24th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

Thank you, Rep. McMorris Rodgers, for the information. I don't live in your congressional district, but I am a resident of WA. I'm proud to hear representatives from our state speaking out on such matters. We've got to stop the corruption and irresponsible decisions of the USG before it is too late. Time is running out . . .

sbenard - March 24th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

WATCH CLOSELY whether the IMF gets involved in trying to bail out Greece. Here's why:

If the IMF gets involved, then the Federal Reserve will likely — almost certainly — be involved in a bailout. If this happens, US Taxpayers will be on the hook for at least part of the cost. They will engineer another bailout rather than risk US banks taking another hit and throwing the entire financial system into another crisis. This crisis is calling into question the survivability of the entire Euro Zone and European economic unity. The Euro is plunging and the Dollar is rocketing higher. But the Dollar strength is only temporary. Ultimately, we are in just as bad a shape and will suffer the same consequences!

By the way: Also in the news today — Portugal's debt downgraded by Fitch. There is more financial meltdown to come. COUNT ON IT! The US is not exempt!

Hucbald - March 24th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

"Therefore, President Obama has the power to either approve or reject a bailout of Greece.

Hey, Biden's so mind-numbingly stupid he thinks Virgil is Greek poet (Virgil was a Roman). There's a chance then, that Obama will think he'd be bailing out The Vatican and block it. Short of that, I think the American taxpayers are screwed… yet again.

Highlander - March 24th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

"… American tax dollars should not be used to bail out Greece – or any country – that engages in reckless government spending and deficits."

Um, does that include the U.S.?

Mjolnir - March 24th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

Sucker bet…

The money would appear…then disappear into the CA Black Hole…

Rule about Black Holes…if you feed them, they get bigger…

@sbenard - March 24th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

USA's debt to GDP is considerably higher than this article reports. The debt clock website shows it at 88%!

We are rapidly approaching a tipping point. We can not defy the laws of sound economics forever.

We had better pray — literally — for the survival of our Republic! And we had better pray that we survive with our freedom!

JPA - March 24th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

This is what people need to understand. The Federal Reserve will be the one deciding if we take part in a Greece bailout, not Obama. But hacks like Rep. Rodgers want to make it a partisan issue and blame Obama. The Fed is not government, it's a private banking cartel and we have little control over it.

@sbenard - March 24th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Germany is the smart one here. Based upon their experience over the past century, they have already said "no bailout" to Greece! Good for them! Let's hope Obama has the wisdom to do the same. Unfortunately, I don't think hee does!

Helldigger - March 24th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Where were the Greek soldiers when we needed help in Iraq and Afghanistan? Where was Greece when American children were starving? Where was Greece when we were digging the dead out of Ground Zero?

Well, they were spending big, getting free health care, practicing the worship of global warming, building large unions that demanded huge pensions and becoming the Obama example to strive for.

If Obama is hell bent on taking down the entire global economy then passing health care, cap and trade, amnesty and giving big bucks to Greece makes sense.

So I believe that is what this Administration must do if they will achieve their overall goal of collapsing the US economy under its own weight.

You voted in this nitwit, now you get to live with his Marxist Utopia.

JPA - March 24th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

Excuse me, Rep. Rodgers, but you should be aware that any Greece bailout will be decided by the Federal Reserve, not Obama. But I understand that your point is not to make people aware, but to whip up some Obama hatred.

LostinOregon - March 24th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

"the President should be vocal that U.S. taxpayers will not bail out Greece"

Rep. Rodgers, the president is not going to be vocal about his plans to ruin or country so that it can be re-made in his image. We elect folks like you to be our voice. Step up and scream at the top of your lungs in the House about these issues. Its what we pay you for.

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

ah but BP.. it was a conscious decision to make nations' economies mutually dependent. I forget the guys name who advocated it, but he was Soros' mentor. It is the evolution of war deterrent. From 1st strike nuclear capabilities to mutual distruction deterrents to etc.. landing on mutually dependent economies as the most 'peaceful and logical' option. The rot began long ago, about 1945.

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

and so they do…

Any CA bailout that doesn't require drastic UNION participation in cuts will be met with nationwide protests.

But don't expect them to cut anything- just raise taxes and fees and drive more people out of the state- and to Texas…

Lolo - March 24th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

Not only will the man child president bail them out he won't get any single thing for it!

COUNT ON IT!

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

It's very encourageing for a representative to be looking forward and informing us. Thank you so very much for doing so.

No insult intended to Rep. McMorris Rodgers.. but the premise that obie won't take the opportunity to put Greece (of all nations, the irony) under his authority, however indirectly, is ridiculous. That's a slam dunk, the king of the world must do such things.

Dhasselhoff - March 24th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Vocally oppose globalism. Vocally oppose CFR. Vocally oppose the yearly bailout of Israel to the tune of WELL OVER 3 BILLION a year.

Dale in TX - March 24th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

UGH……we don't need anymore damn CA refugees down here……

Dhasselhoff - March 24th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

Taking down the global economy? You speak as if the global economy is a good thing. No, it is ONE or the OTHER. It is the global economy that is going to take down the US.

End all "free trade" agreements End immigration deport the illegals stop paying the UN close all foreign bases bring home the troops stop giving welfare to Israel deport Rahm Emanuel for his terrorist ties (father was a terrorist)

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

:~} i resisted the urge Dale..

Lionel Hutz, Esq. - March 24th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

At this rate, I'd sooner take financial advice from Jimmy the Greek than Greece…

MadDog - March 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

At least Isreal is still a Domocracy subject to the will of the people!

James - March 24th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

U.S. dollars have most likely already been secretly given to Greece. The Federal Reserve can secretly give money to foreign governments and foreign central banks with no oversight by the Congress. This is one of the reasons we need an audit of the Fed so badly. We have no idea what the hell they're doing with our money.

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

sorry for the reverse endorsement- Californians! Stay away from Texas!

Y'hear?…

Tom - March 24th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

The bolsheviks are coming,the bolsheviks are coming.

Bellinghamster - March 24th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

I believe Obama will do it. They'll think of it as practice for California and inevitably the United States (what do you want to bet that if we need a bailout, the EU will be nowhere to be

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A mouse trap with a big hunk of fetta cheese on it….

BusProf - March 24th, 2010 at 4:10 pm

I remember when Mutually Assured Destruction was about Nuclear Weapons – now it is is about Money.

It is like we are all sitting in a swimming pool of gasoline and every country has a match.

LODDTOM - March 24th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Haha, expecting Barry/Nancy/Harry to exercise anything resembling fiscal responsibility, is like expecting the sun not to come up for the next week or so.

Paul - March 24th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Ahhh. Excuse me? "In the meantime, let’s be clear: If President Obama is considering bailing out Greece, American taxpayers need to send him a message. And our message is: “Just Say No.”

Obama listens to us? Pull my other leg.

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

forget Greece- it's California that is the REAL problem here…

Greece is closer to Illinois in per capita debt than CA. The Golden State is going to go belly up without a massive infusion of Obamascript. Which undoubtedly is coming. Too big too fail, y'know. The question remains: will any of these entities correct their own financial malfeasance after they are helprd out, or will the profligate spending continue?

What do YOU think?…

Liberty4Ever - March 24th, 2010 at 4:31 pm

Thank you, Rep. McMorris Rodgers, for the information. I don't live in your congressional district, but I am a resident of WA. I'm proud to hear representatives from our state speaking out on such matters. We've got to stop the corruption and irresponsible decisions of the USG before it is too late. Time is running out . . .

sbenard - March 24th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

WATCH CLOSELY whether the IMF gets involved in trying to bail out Greece. Here's why:

If the IMF gets involved, then the Federal Reserve will likely — almost certainly — be involved in a bailout. If this happens, US Taxpayers will be on the hook for at least part of the cost. They will engineer another bailout rather than risk US banks taking another hit and throwing the entire financial system into another crisis. This crisis is calling into question the survivability of the entire Euro Zone and European economic unity. The Euro is plunging and the Dollar is rocketing higher. But the Dollar strength is only temporary. Ultimately, we are in just as bad a shape and will suffer the same consequences!

By the way: Also in the news today — Portugal's debt downgraded by Fitch. There is more financial meltdown to come. COUNT ON IT! The US is not exempt!

Hucbald - March 24th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

"Therefore, President Obama has the power to either approve or reject a bailout of Greece.

Hey, Biden's so mind-numbingly stupid he thinks Virgil is Greek poet (Virgil was a Roman). There's a chance then, that Obama will think he'd be bailing out The Vatican and block it. Short of that, I think the American taxpayers are screwed… yet again.

Highlander - March 24th, 2010 at 4:35 pm

"… American tax dollars should not be used to bail out Greece – or any country – that engages in reckless government spending and deficits."

Um, does that include the U.S.?

Mjolnir - March 24th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

Sucker bet…

The money would appear…then disappear into the CA Black Hole…

Rule about Black Holes…if you feed them, they get bigger…

@sbenard - March 24th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

USA's debt to GDP is considerably higher than this article reports. The debt clock website shows it at 88%!

We are rapidly approaching a tipping point. We can not defy the laws of sound economics forever.

We had better pray — literally — for the survival of our Republic! And we had better pray that we survive with our freedom!

JPA - March 24th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

This is what people need to understand. The Federal Reserve will be the one deciding if we take part in a Greece bailout, not Obama. But hacks like Rep. Rodgers want to make it a partisan issue and blame Obama. The Fed is not government, it's a private banking cartel and we have little control over it.

@sbenard - March 24th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Germany is the smart one here. Based upon their experience over the past century, they have already said "no bailout" to Greece! Good for them! Let's hope Obama has the wisdom to do the same. Unfortunately, I don't think hee does!

Helldigger - March 24th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

Where were the Greek soldiers when we needed help in Iraq and Afghanistan? Where was Greece when American children were starving? Where was Greece when we were digging the dead out of Ground Zero?

Well, they were spending big, getting free health care, practicing the worship of global warming, building large unions that demanded huge pensions and becoming the Obama example to strive for.

If Obama is hell bent on taking down the entire global economy then passing health care, cap and trade, amnesty and giving big bucks to Greece makes sense.

So I believe that is what this Administration must do if they will achieve their overall goal of collapsing the US economy under its own weight.

You voted in this nitwit, now you get to live with his Marxist Utopia.

JPA - March 24th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

Excuse me, Rep. Rodgers, but you should be aware that any Greece bailout will be decided by the Federal Reserve, not Obama. But I understand that your point is not to make people aware, but to whip up some Obama hatred.

LostinOregon - March 24th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

"the President should be vocal that U.S. taxpayers will not bail out Greece"

Rep. Rodgers, the president is not going to be vocal about his plans to ruin or country so that it can be re-made in his image. We elect folks like you to be our voice. Step up and scream at the top of your lungs in the House about these issues. Its what we pay you for.

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

ah but BP.. it was a conscious decision to make nations' economies mutually dependent. I forget the guys name who advocated it, but he was Soros' mentor. It is the evolution of war deterrent. From 1st strike nuclear capabilities to mutual distruction deterrents to etc.. landing on mutually dependent economies as the most 'peaceful and logical' option. The rot began long ago, about 1945.

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

and so they do…

Any CA bailout that doesn't require drastic UNION participation in cuts will be met with nationwide protests.

But don't expect them to cut anything- just raise taxes and fees and drive more people out of the state- and to Texas…

Lolo - March 24th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

Not only will the man child president bail them out he won't get any single thing for it!

COUNT ON IT!

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

It's very encourageing for a representative to be looking forward and informing us. Thank you so very much for doing so.

No insult intended to Rep. McMorris Rodgers.. but the premise that obie won't take the opportunity to put Greece (of all nations, the irony) under his authority, however indirectly, is ridiculous. That's a slam dunk, the king of the world must do such things.

Dhasselhoff - March 24th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Vocally oppose globalism. Vocally oppose CFR. Vocally oppose the yearly bailout of Israel to the tune of WELL OVER 3 BILLION a year.

Dale in TX - March 24th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

UGH……we don't need anymore damn CA refugees down here……

Dhasselhoff - March 24th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

Taking down the global economy? You speak as if the global economy is a good thing. No, it is ONE or the OTHER. It is the global economy that is going to take down the US.

End all "free trade" agreements End immigration deport the illegals stop paying the UN close all foreign bases bring home the troops stop giving welfare to Israel deport Rahm Emanuel for his terrorist ties (father was a terrorist)

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

:~} i resisted the urge Dale..

Lionel Hutz, Esq. - March 24th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

At this rate, I'd sooner take financial advice from Jimmy the Greek than Greece…

MadDog - March 24th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

At least Isreal is still a Domocracy subject to the will of the people!

James - March 24th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

U.S. dollars have most likely already been secretly given to Greece. The Federal Reserve can secretly give money to foreign governments and foreign central banks with no oversight by the Congress. This is one of the reasons we need an audit of the Fed so badly. We have no idea what the hell they're doing with our money.

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

sorry for the reverse endorsement- Californians! Stay away from Texas!

Y'hear?…

Tom - March 24th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

The bolsheviks are coming,the bolsheviks are coming.

Bellinghamster - March 24th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

I believe Obama will do it. They'll think of it as practice for California and inevitably the United States (what do you want to bet that if we need a bailout, the EU will be nowhere to be found?)

Dhasselhoff - March 24th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

You mean like the US? How did that health care reform work out?

underarock - March 24th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

actually.. y'all c'mon down. but please leave the indoctrination behind.

DavidMontgomery - March 24th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

dcase,

BINGO! I was just going to post a similar thought.

I don't want to bail out CALIFORNIA let alone Greece.

I think we should sell California to the Mexicans, except for Hollywood, I think we should sell Hollywood to Castro or Chavez. It would serve those commie pinko b@stards right for worshiping those commie thugs.

spaceracer423 - March 24th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

The Fed operates within the government, and the: Board of Governers, Chairman, and Vice Chairman are appointed by the President and confirmend by congress. Considering who the President is, and the way the DNC has been running Congress, I would say that YES, this is a partisan issue.

Also the Fed is subjuect to Audits form the Federal Accounting Office.

In addition, if congress and the Pres want to have a better idea about what the Fed does, then they should have supported Ron Paul's 'Federal Reserve Transparency Act '

http://www.federalreserveeducation.org/fed101/str... http://www.ask.com/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System

dcase - March 24th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

sell California? It ain't worth it's debt… unless of course you exploit it's energy reserves.

No, can't do that. Maybe Mexico can. OK, then, SOLD…

JPA - March 24th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

The Fed does not operate entirely within the government. Its members are picked by the President but it is from a list given to him by the Fed. The "audits" they are subjected to are a charade.

Yes, they should have supported HR 1207 but central bankers and their cohorts (including Geithner) waged a scare campaign with their pols in Congress from both parties.

Lionel Hutz, Esq. - March 24th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The Jews are going to ruin us!……

Get real, you dope.

Ewald_the_Black - March 24th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

California would practically be a red state if we could just sell San Francisco back to Mexico.

Ewald_the_Black - March

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A mouse trap with a big hunk of fetta cheese on it….

I remember when Mutually Assured Destruction was about Nuclear Weapons – now it is is about Money.

It is like we are all sitting in a swimming pool of gasoline and every country has a match.

Haha, expecting Barry/Nancy/Harry to exercise anything resembling fiscal responsibility, is like expecting the sun not to come up for the next week or so.

Ahhh. Excuse me? "In the meantime, let’s be clear: If President Obama is considering bailing out Greece, American taxpayers need to send him a message. And our message is: “Just Say No.”

Obama listens to us? Pull my other leg.

forget Greece- it's California that is the REAL problem here…

Greece is closer to Illinois in per capita debt than CA. The Golden State is going to go belly up without a massive infusion of Obamascript. Which undoubtedly is coming. Too big too fail, y'know. The question remains: will any of these entities correct their own financial malfeasance after they are helprd out, or will the profligate spending continue?

What do YOU think?…

Thank you, Rep. McMorris Rodgers, for the information. I don't live in your congressional district, but I am a resident of WA. I'm proud to hear representatives from our state speaking out on such matters. We've got to stop the corruption and irresponsible decisions of the USG before it is too late. Time is running out . . .

WATCH CLOSELY whether the IMF gets involved in trying to bail out Greece. Here's why:

If the IMF gets involved, then the Federal Reserve will likely — almost certainly — be involved in a bailout. If this happens, US Taxpayers will be on the hook for at least part of the cost. They will engineer another bailout rather than risk US banks taking another hit and throwing the entire financial system into another crisis. This crisis is calling into question the survivability of the entire Euro Zone and European economic unity. The Euro is plunging and the Dollar is rocketing higher. But the Dollar strength is only temporary. Ultimately, we are in just as bad a shape and will suffer the same consequences!

By the way: Also in the news today — Portugal's debt downgraded by Fitch. There is more financial meltdown to come. COUNT ON IT! The US is not exempt!

"Therefore, President Obama has the power to either approve or reject a bailout of Greece.

Hey, Biden's so mind-numbingly stupid he thinks Virgil is Greek poet (Virgil was a Roman). There's a chance then, that Obama will think he'd be bailing out The Vatican and block it. Short of that, I think the American taxpayers are screwed… yet again.

"… American tax dollars should not be used to bail out Greece – or any country – that engages in reckless government spending and deficits."

Um, does that include the U.S.?

Sucker bet…

The money would appear…then disappear into the CA Black Hole…

Rule about Black Holes…if you feed them, they get bigger…

USA's debt to GDP is considerably higher than this article reports. The debt clock website shows it at 88%!

We are rapidly approaching a tipping point. We can not defy the laws of sound economics forever.

We had better pray — literally — for the survival of our Republic! And we had better pray that we survive with our freedom!

This is what people need to understand. The Federal Reserve will be the one deciding if we take part in a Greece bailout, not Obama. But hacks like Rep. Rodgers want to make it a partisan issue and blame Obama. The Fed is not government, it's a private banking cartel and we have little control over it.

Germany is the smart one here. Based upon their experience over the past century, they have already said "no bailout" to Greece! Good for them! Let's hope Obama has the wisdom to do the same. Unfortunately, I don't think hee does!

Where were the Greek soldiers when we needed help in Iraq and Afghanistan? Where was Greece when American children were starving? Where was Greece when we were digging the dead out of Ground Zero?

Well, they were spending big, getting free health care, practicing the worship of global warming, building large unions that demanded huge pensions and becoming the Obama example to strive for.

If Obama is hell bent on taking down the entire global economy then passing health care, cap and trade, amnesty and giving big bucks to Greece makes sense.

So I believe that is what this Administration must do if they will achieve their overall goal of collapsing the US economy under its own weight.

You voted in this nitwit, now you get to live with his Marxist Utopia.

Excuse me, Rep. Rodgers, but you should be aware that any Greece bailout will be decided by the Federal Reserve, not Obama. But I understand that your point is not to make people aware, but to whip up some Obama hatred.

"the President should be vocal that U.S. taxpayers will not bail out Greece"

Rep. Rodgers, the president is not going to be vocal about his plans to ruin or country so that it can be re-made in his image. We elect folks like you to be our voice. Step up and scream at the top of your lungs in the House about these issues. Its what we pay you for.

ah but BP.. it was a conscious decision to make nations' economies mutually dependent. I forget the guys name who advocated it, but he was Soros' mentor. It is the evolution of war deterrent. From 1st strike nuclear capabilities to mutual distruction deterrents to etc.. landing on mutually dependent economies as the most 'peaceful and logical' option. The rot began long ago, about 1945.

and so they do…

Any CA bailout that doesn't require drastic UNION participation in cuts will be met with nationwide protests.

But don't expect them to cut anything- just raise taxes and fees and drive more people out of the state- and to Texas…

Not only will the man child president bail them out he won't get any single thing for it!

COUNT ON IT!

It's very encourageing for a representative to be looking forward and informing us. Thank you so very much for doing so.

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