As the Greek debt crisis threatens to extend to Spain and beyond, even with a European Union bailout, 7 big banks face significant risk.
The names are distressingly familiar:
Remember them? They were so neck-deep in the Lehman/AIG/mortgage-backed-assets debacle that they required government bailouts. (Deutsche Bank may quibble. It got its cash from American International Group (AIG, news, msgs), so, technically, I suppose it didn't get government money. But because the AIG payout used cash from a government bailout of that company, I think it's a distinction without a difference.)Click graphics to see interactive chartsDeutsche BankBarclaysAnd now? Well, these companies all make the shortlist of European banks most at risk in the Greek debt crisis. The European Union's $1 trillion bailout doesn't do anything to change the risk of these individual banks. It merely puts in place a mechanism for a rescue.
Want to know how dangerous the Greek (soon to become the Greek-Spanish) crisis is? Look at these banks. (For more on Spain's progress toward crisis, see this blog post on my website.)
Want to understand why this is serious but not a replay of the chaos that followed on the collapse of Lehman Brothers? Look at these banks.
Want to know why investors are right to worry about contagion and the risk that other banks will catch what these banks have? Look at these banks.
OK, let's start with the data on how much money is at risk at each bank. (The Financial Times put this all together in a table in its Thursday paper.)Click graphics to see interactive chartsFortisSociété GénéraleINGBNP ParibasFortis holds $5 billion in Greek bonds. Dexia holds $4 billion. Société Générale $5.2 billion. BNP Paribas $8 billion. ING $4.6 billion. Barclays $6 billion. And Deutsche Bank $2.6 billion. Altogether, that's a hefty $35.4 billion in Greek bonds.
Now, I know that seems like a lot of money, but in the scale of the recent financial crisis, it's not all that much. If you compare these amounts with what it took to bail out these banks in the aftermath of the Lehman bankruptcy, $35.4 billion is pocket change.
The governments of Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg bailed out Fortis to the tune of $16 billion or so. The Dutch government injected $13.4 billion into ING. France, Belgium and Luxembourg put $9 billion into Dexia. France bought $13.9 billion in debt securities from six banks, including Société Générale and BNP Paribas, and then later lent an additional $7.4 billion to BNP Paribas. Not the only thing to fear, but a biggie But on another scale, these sums seem absolutely large enough to re-create the dynamic that made the post-Lehman crisis so devastating. The basis of the post-Lehman crisis was fear.
Banks that had become accustomed to finding their capital in the financial markets by selling short-term commercial paper found themselves forced to borrow for shorter and shorter periods as buyers of bank debt tried to limit their risk by extending money for as few days as possible. Eventually, those few days turned into no days, and these banks found themselves unable to get financing at all.
Something similar is happening in the European banking sector right now. Banks are increasingly unwilling to lend to each other for any period longer than overnight. Of the almost $600 billion that turns over every day in the eurozone money market sector, 90% is now lent not for 90, 30, 14 or even seven days, but overnight. In normal times, the lending period averages between 30 and 90 days. Msn.Video.createWidget('PlayerAd1Container', 'PlayerAd', 304, 314, {"configCsid": "MSNmoney", "configName": "player-money-4x3-articles-inline", "player.vcq": "videoByUuids.aspx?uuids= cee4c9fd-325d-4a51-abfa-f00f2a4a84b8,8e6ea780-09f8-4d86-a1ca-c2e9174c5b52,fc1c742d-a64a-4c29-80ff-eaa183db874b,4c1c32f6-70b0-4f00-80c4-bf1a8de90c5c,9c773a64-2790-4bdc-b449-1ff08e349e1c,5c7169a9-d64e-4d0c-8c3d-5a5a1b162028,27cc972a-845b-49ad-9bde-c3fc2cda6fe3,99bfed1f-783c-4a09-b92f-a29ebae49f19", "player.fr": "iv2_en-us_money_article_Investing-JubaksJournal-inline"}, 'PlayerAd1');Msn.Video.createWidget('Gallery4Container', 'Gallery', 304, 150, {"configCsid": "MSNmoney", "configName": "gallery-money-articles", "gallery.linkbackLocation": "bottom_left", "gallery.numColsGrid": "3", "gallery.categoryRequests": "videoByUuids.aspx?uuids=cee4c9fd-325d-4a51-abfa-f00f2a4a84b8,8e6ea780-09f8-4d86-a1ca-c2e9174c5b52,fc1c742d-a64a-4c29-80ff-eaa183db874b,4c1c32f6-70b0-4f00-80c4-bf1a8de90c5c,9c773a64-2790-4bdc-b449-1ff08e349e1c,5c7169a9-d64e-4d0c-8c3d-5a5a1b162028,27cc972a-845b-49ad-9bde-c3fc2cda6fe3,99bfed1f-783c-4a09-b92f-a29ebae49f19;videoByTag.aspx%3Ftag%3Dmoney_dispatch%26ns%3DMSNmoney_Gallery%26mk%3Dus%26vs%3D1;videoByTag.aspx%3Ftag%3Dbest%2520of%2520money%26ns%3DMSNmoney_Gallery%26mk%3Dus%26vs%3D1"}, 'Gallery4');The fear that's behind the unwillingness to lend comes from massive uncertainty. Some banks look in trouble even if you look at just Greek debt and use a relatively strict but straightforward measure such as the ratio of Greek debt to tangible net asset value. (Net asset value is the value of a company's assets that remains after all liabilities have been subtracted. Tangible net asset value excludes intangible assets such as goodwill by assuming that such assets are worthless.)
At Fortis, Greek debt equals more than 60% of tangible net asset value. At Dexia, the ratio is 30%. Both numbers are high enough to make potential buyers of short-term paper from these banks shy away.
But even banks with much lower ratios, such as Société Générale, BNP Paribas, ING, Barclays and Deutsche Bank -- where Greek debt ranges from a little more than 10% (at Société Générale) to just over 5% (at Deutsche Bank) -- aren't worry-free.
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ReplyReport Abuse1 - 1 of 1PreviousNext_ucf13('0'); _iuc2Om1('MSNPortalInlineComments','Initial_Load_Comment_View','http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/eurotrashed-it-is-not-just-greece.aspx?page=2&','en-us');Are you sure you want to delete this comment?Report AbusePlease help us to maintain a healthy and vibrant community by reporting any illegal or inappropriate behavior. If you believe a message violates theCode of Conductplease notify us using the Report abuse form below. We will investigate your report and take appropriate action against offenders. We report all illegal activity to authorities.CategoriesSpam or advertisingChild pornography or exploitationProfanity, vulgarity or obscenityCopyright infringementHarassment or threatOtherAdditional comments(optional)100 character limit To add a comment, pleasesign in/*MSN PrivacyLegalAdvertiseRSSHelpFeedbackSite mapAbout our ads© 2010 Microsoft/*At Fortis, Greek debt equals more than 60% of tangible net asset value. At Dexia, the ratio is 30%. Both numbers are high enough to make potential buyers of short-term paper from these banks shy away.
But even banks with much lower ratios, such as Société Générale, BNP Paribas, ING, Barclays and Deutsche Bank -- where Greek debt ranges from a little more than 10% (at Société Générale) to just over 5% (at Deutsche Bank) -- aren't worry-free.
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We in the United States are certainly going to have new bank rules to outlaw some of this reckless behavior that has been going on. I think other countries will follow suit and do the same also. One good thing that should come out of this whole mess is that governments and banks will learn from what has transpired.
Lynn X
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